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Okay, I've thought for quite a while that it would be a good idea to start a general discussion post here. This is where we can cover a slightly wider range of topics and allow the Artist Series threads to remain focused on the respective competitions and not wander of "chasing rabbits". Come on in for the simple ground rules...

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Tony Hardman
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5:50:00 PM Wednesday, October 25, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Hey guys, I thought some of you might like to see what the nike shoe factories look like, as well as get a peak at the process. When you are designing a shoe, you really have to be able to think through how somebody who doesn't speak your language is going to build it for you. Copy and paste the link and scroll down. Enjoy! -TH

http://www.kick-fiend.com/
Ryan Holler
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11:17:00 PM Wednesday, October 25, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Nice. Man, I thought for a moment those were AF2 outsoles, but they're just Court Force. I likes me some Air Force Twos!
johnny szabo
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8:29:00 AM Thursday, October 26, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah saw that earlier, really interseting. There was a show on Tv, Discovery Channel I think, which showed how they make a shoe at Aasics. From the development , to the final product.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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6:16:00 AM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
RYAN, TONY, KG !!!!!!

Well, how would it be to talk about Football boots, well SOCCER in America?!
I think there just so much too it, i know it´s basicaly all about basketball kicks here how would that be? I´d have lot´s of really great images to share, like this one!
Adidas Predator David Beckham England Sample, right now it´s 275 euros on ebay, it is just a sample and it should have been the boot for Beckham to wear for England after the World Cup, but since he is not on the squad right now, this remained just a sample!

if you want the ebay link to it, just contact me, here´s a image:

cheers


johnny szabo
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7:47:00 AM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Nice shoe, personally not a big fan of soccer, but the shoes are really interesting, done a couple.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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12:02:00 PM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
you guys definetly have to check it out!
You All know that the new NBA season starts soon!

www.KB24.com


MJ 4 LIFE !!!
Christoph Döttelmayer
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12:19:00 PM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
and here is also something really nice guys:

A preview shot of the Nike Zoom Kobe II. The new signature for Kobe Bryant is rumored to be releasing in Spring of 2007. A little later than usual for a signature shoe launch.

cheers
johnny szabo
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3:43:00 PM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah a bit late, but those Kobes dont look like anythin special although the pic aint the best. We'll see....
Christoph Döttelmayer
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4:10:00 PM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
that´s all i found! they are still a secret!
I guess they will be great, like the first ones!
johnny szabo
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4:56:00 PM Friday, October 27, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah the ZK1s were pretty darn hot, loved the MPLS addition. Plus the K3s,4s and 5s were acclaimed to be his shoes( anyone know that for sure?), those were all nice, so lets hope Nike can hold that standard they set.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:47:00 AM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
yeah they always said that the K3,4,.. were his, but they weren´t. Everybody was wearing them, Kobe only had his 8 on the back and the Lakers colors! I know he had some sick colorways.
Personaly i don´t like that shoe.

cheers
arpith siromoney
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7:36:00 AM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

stephen christian
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10:44:00 AM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
those spiz'ikes are craaazy...i don't even think you can cop a pair for under $400.00...super-limited, obviously...
justin taylor
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1:43:00 PM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
About those Kobe 2s, I have had the pleasure of seeing them in person, and they are nice, but not very extraordinary. Especially for a signature shoe. They have a bit of the Niike Considered line approach to the design, and they have a really nice detail in the quarter and ankle. There is a suede panel that has diamonds lasered out of it so it creates a suede mesh, if you will. Also, outsole flexibility was a major point on this shoe.
johnny szabo
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2:26:00 PM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah those spiz'ikes are pretty dame rare...and expensive! Justin I guess you don't have any pics? A question how do you get to see not yet released kicks? Do you work at Nike or somethin? Afriend of Kobe(lol, or maybe not)?
Christoph Döttelmayer
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3:29:00 PM Saturday, October 28, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
where did you get the chance to see the Kobe II?

cheers
Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:44:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:45:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:57:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:59:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
XXII, looks like the F-117!
johnny szabo
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8:55:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Seen those, I really like em to tell you the truth.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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9:51:00 AM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
i really like them, but honestly i can´t see the passion behind them yet. I had a really great feeling when I saw the XXI the first time, and I completly felt in love with them, that´s why i bought them!
the 22 are totaly different, way more agrsessive than the 21.

I guess that will change ones there will be commercials and so on the Jordan page!

edgar vergara
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1:05:00 PM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
more...
Ryan Holler
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9:29:00 PM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Christoph -- There have been a couple different design twists on the Air Jordan XX2 leaked out---main differences being in the ankle/heel area. The one you just posted here is just one of them.

By the way, in my opinion, this is exactly what an Air Jordan should be. Busy parts, large clean parts, a little bit freaky, very imaginative, and not for everybody. Actually, to me, if everybody liked it that would kinda suck.

It's always funny to me when early pics of the Air Jordan leak out and NTers are all pissed and talking about how they don't like it. Then a few months later they're posting that they copped this colorway and that colorway. It's like a predictable movie. You know what's going to happen but it's still fun to watch.
arpith siromoney
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10:13:00 PM Sunday, October 29, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Christoph Döttelmayer
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3:41:00 AM Monday, October 30, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Ryan,

thanks for telling me, well I do like it, but as you said, if things changed on the shoe we won´t see the final product until the release, i guess!
But I´m right about your opinion on the Air Jordan´s


MJ 4 LIFE !!!
johnny szabo
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4:32:00 AM Monday, October 30, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Yeah that's real true Ryan, but thats just the way it is. Arpith whos that shoe for cause it has the number 8 on it? About the Js I like this preview with the vents by the heel better than the previous one, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
arpith siromoney
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4:59:00 AM Monday, October 30, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
johnny, the shoe is for my friend zara, she's turning 18 in a bit :) the lateral side of the left shoe reads 1
Pietro Pellicelli
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6:20:00 AM Monday, October 30, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Hi everyboby!!!

I think I like these Jordan XX2. They are the best D'Wayne has designed.
I think they really have much more soul than any other post-Tinker era Jordans.

My doubts are just 3:
1 - heel outsole shape perfomance-wise
2 - ankle plastic vents in the pics posted before , they seem too much airplane and too little footwear...I'd prefer a more subtle recall, like Jordan 18 vents which were inspired by Lamborghini Murcielago's variable geometry vents, not just taken out from.
3 - heel Jumpman logo / heel-counter: the logo is quite big for an "Air Jordan" (a smaller, extruded, same material/color as heelcounter Jumpman would look better) and also the heel counter seems a detached part, not very consistent with the overall design. The 45 degrees rotated square - diamond like shape (...where's a dictionary when you need one...) is also present in the XXI PE, but I don't fall in love with it.

On the other hand, ankle lace loops are really original and the heel view of the rocket-exaust like midsole is nice too.

I hope final shoes will improve again, good stuff, anyway
Ciaoooo
Ryan Holler
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12:45:00 AM Tuesday, October 31, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Pietro, good to hear from you, man. What's going on with the --------- project? Shoot me an email.
Ryan Holler
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11:35:00 AM Tuesday, October 31, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Did y'all know that adidas is releasing a street version of Jesse Owens track spikes? I knew Jesse wore adidas shoes, but I'd never thought about this until now... I wonder how Hitler felt about the German Adi Dassler making a shoe for Jesse Owens, and then having Jesse turn around and kick his arse with it. The only thing that would have made the story any better is if Jesse would have taken the spikes off and handed them to ol' Adolph right there at the medal ceremony. That would have been cool.

johnny szabo
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4:15:00 PM Tuesday, October 31, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Cool info Ryan , is that what they're goin to look like?
stephen christian
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10:21:00 PM Tuesday, October 31, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
speaking of adidas, can anyone fill me in on rumours regarding retro adidas phantoms? word was on the black/white and white/red mids...could be completely bunk, but i would be completely in on those suckas...
Rich Benares
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11:53:00 PM Tuesday, October 31, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
And a bit more info that I'm sure most of you know.. Adi's brother Rudi founded Puma :)
Rich Benares
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12:11:00 AM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
"I wonder how Hitler felt about the German Adi Dassler making a shoe for Jesse Owens, and then having Jesse turn around and kick his arse with it. The only thing that would have made the story any better is if Jesse would have taken the spikes off and handed them to ol' Adolph right there at the medal ceremony. That would have been cool."

I was curious to see if there were any documentation into what Hitler might have thought and I ran into this article on George Masons History News Network. I guess Hitler might have thought nothing of it....

http://hnn.us/articles/571.html
Lei Wang
(267Over 200 Rating)

1:02:00 AM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Ryan,it seems you are right. The Li-Ning logo didn't appear on Shaq's new game shoes. As I know, the Li-Ning designed Shaq shoe won't be released until Jan 07.
arpith siromoney
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2:31:00 PM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Tony Hardman
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2:42:00 PM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Look at that Shaq shoe! LOL. What in the holy hell IS THAT?!!! The leather looks like it's all crunched up on the quarter! Woah.
seamus conway
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3:52:00 PM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Isn't the Li-Ning logo that red checkmark thing under the dunkman logo?
Lei Wang
(267Over 200 Rating)

4:23:00 PM Wednesday, November 01, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
No, that's not the li-ning logo. It's just a red underlay.
Ryan Holler
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1:28:00 AM Thursday, November 02, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Lei, hopefully it will look better that the ones Exeter designs for him. That is one freakin' ugly shoe! Look at that "SHAQ" plaque on the midsole. Looks like somebody slapped a piece of SHAQ Halloween candy on it.

Rich, that's an interesting article. I didn't know any of that, but I had heard some of the myths. It'd be interesting if one of the adidas guys could come on here and fill us in on that Jesse spike. The little blurb in the photo is all the info I have on it. I scanned that out of Sneaker Freaker 8.
Lei Wang
(267Over 200 Rating)

12:30:00 PM Thursday, November 02, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Ryan, did you mean this shoe was not designed by Exeter? Then who else did it?
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445Over 200 Rating)


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6:20:00 PM Thursday, November 02, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
check out the Jordan Press conference from Paris last week, MJ and Tinker talk about the the NBA toda, the past Air Jordans, the XXII and the XXIII

really nice!!

http://www.bkrw.com/articles.php?i=20
Ryan Holler
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11:31:00 PM Thursday, November 02, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Lei -- No, that's not what I meant to say. I'm sure that's an Exeter designed shoe.

According to them, the frequent changes in Shaq's shoe styles is not necessarily a marketing move on the part of Exeter. It's Shaq. He loves to break out several different styles within a season. He obviously doesn't care if they look good, as long as they're different.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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4:31:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
i think the shoe looks more like a conrete block stuck at his feet, just colored!
Christoph Döttelmayer
(445Over 200 Rating)


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4:45:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
i got two new shoes out of the box for you,

the new Dwane Wade convers and AI´s new Answer X
Christoph Döttelmayer
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4:46:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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6:33:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
What are those X's like? Thopught of buyin them but couldnt decide. Those Shaq's are...hmmm...interesting.
Christoph Döttelmayer
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9:01:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
what do you mean with what they are like?
i think they are great, you should see the back and the inside, they´re great, i´ve always loved the iverson shoe, that´s why i got the IV,V,VI and VII, i just don´t like that pump thing on them.
check em out at rbk.com

cheers
johnny szabo
(890Over 500 Rating)


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10:18:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Sorry, my bad, I meant what are they like preformance wise? Did you play ball in them? Personally I liked the Ais too, I have the 4's, 7's, 8's and nines oh and an Iverson Team shoe, whatever that is and I liked playin ball in all of them. By the way does anyone know anyfashion, clothing design webpages simular to this one? I meaqn there is a forum, pros and themes or stuff like that.
stephen christian
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11:30:00 AM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
i've gotta say, the X's are the best ones, in my opinion, since the IV's...but that's just me...nice that they still crank out the questions, too...
Christoph Döttelmayer
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5:09:00 PM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
they got a big fat three on the inside of the red strap that goes around the foot, check´em out at rbk.com
Lei Wang
(267Over 200 Rating)

8:56:00 PM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
I don't like the big fat three on medial at all. Looks like it's screen printed which feels cheap. A rasied deboss or laser cutting will be much better.
Ben Adams-Keane
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9:08:00 PM Friday, November 03, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
Completely agree Lei. It looks cheap and low quality and would probably rub off pretty fast.

Don't forget to check out the Team Concept thread everyone! There are 2 designs already posted there...
Lei Wang
(267Over 200 Rating)

1:31:00 AM Saturday, November 04, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
All rbk shoes look the same.
Lei Wang
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1:32:00 AM Saturday, November 04, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!

Lei Wang
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Lei Wang
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Lei Wang
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johnny szabo
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8:20:00 AM Saturday, November 04, 2006    Good Post! Bad Post!
I don't find RBK that bad I like them, but well they aint Jordans.
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